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	<title>Comments on: White Paper released, Kevin Rudd announces target.</title>
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		<title>By: Steven Earl Salmony</title>
		<link>http://climatedilemma.wordpress.com/2008/12/15/white-paper-released-kevin-rudd-announces-target/#comment-100</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steven Earl Salmony]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 19:53:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why not lay blame for the current economic catastrophe where it belongs: at the feet of the economic powerbrokers who organize and manage a colossal pyramid scheme, a modern representation of the ancient Tower of Babel? Is the denial of anthropogenic global warming and the human-driven destabilization of Earth&#039;s climate not primarily for the purpose of preserving the selfish material interests of a few wealthy and powerful people, and their minions?

Let&#039;s look a bit more closely at the scandulous &#039;business&#039; of Bernie Madoff, confidence games, Ponzi schemes and other financial vehicles for funneling, accumulating and concentrating billions of dollars in unearned wealth into the hands of a tiny minority of people who comprise the top of the global economy.

There are many minions of the wealthy and their bought-and-paid-for politicians who &quot;spread the word&quot; of these schemes. Con men operate pyramid schemes. They assure &quot;plausible deniability&quot; and &quot;legal cover&quot; for all that is said and done. 

Only a telling of the truth about what they are doing is forbidden. That is the one and only thing that is verboten. Do not break their vow of silence by telling what is true about the perpetration of the schemes {ie, the only games in town, so they say}, because the &quot;houses of cards&quot; out of which a modern Tower of Babel is constructed immediately is exposed as fraudulent and patently unsustainable.  These pyramidal constructions can withstand any force except that which is presented by speaking out loudly and clearly about what is happening in these enterprises.  As soon as light of what is true was shed on Bernie&#039;s scheme, the house of cards he had constructed fell.

Bernard Madoff may be the first of my &quot;Not So GREAT GREED GRAB Generation&#039;s&quot; kingpins to find that his &quot;house of cards&quot; has collapsed; but I dare say, Bernie will not be the last. There are other kingpins and many too many minions ready, willing and able to play along in what looks like the greatest self-enrichment scam in human history.

Why not say that greed is not good and mean it? Why not assign value to personal honesty, accountability and transparency?

Steven Earl Salmony
AWAREness Campaign on The Human Population,
established 2001
http://sustainabilityscience.org/content.html?contentid=1176]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why not lay blame for the current economic catastrophe where it belongs: at the feet of the economic powerbrokers who organize and manage a colossal pyramid scheme, a modern representation of the ancient Tower of Babel? Is the denial of anthropogenic global warming and the human-driven destabilization of Earth&#8217;s climate not primarily for the purpose of preserving the selfish material interests of a few wealthy and powerful people, and their minions?</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s look a bit more closely at the scandulous &#8216;business&#8217; of Bernie Madoff, confidence games, Ponzi schemes and other financial vehicles for funneling, accumulating and concentrating billions of dollars in unearned wealth into the hands of a tiny minority of people who comprise the top of the global economy.</p>
<p>There are many minions of the wealthy and their bought-and-paid-for politicians who &#8220;spread the word&#8221; of these schemes. Con men operate pyramid schemes. They assure &#8220;plausible deniability&#8221; and &#8220;legal cover&#8221; for all that is said and done. </p>
<p>Only a telling of the truth about what they are doing is forbidden. That is the one and only thing that is verboten. Do not break their vow of silence by telling what is true about the perpetration of the schemes {ie, the only games in town, so they say}, because the &#8220;houses of cards&#8221; out of which a modern Tower of Babel is constructed immediately is exposed as fraudulent and patently unsustainable.  These pyramidal constructions can withstand any force except that which is presented by speaking out loudly and clearly about what is happening in these enterprises.  As soon as light of what is true was shed on Bernie&#8217;s scheme, the house of cards he had constructed fell.</p>
<p>Bernard Madoff may be the first of my &#8220;Not So GREAT GREED GRAB Generation&#8217;s&#8221; kingpins to find that his &#8220;house of cards&#8221; has collapsed; but I dare say, Bernie will not be the last. There are other kingpins and many too many minions ready, willing and able to play along in what looks like the greatest self-enrichment scam in human history.</p>
<p>Why not say that greed is not good and mean it? Why not assign value to personal honesty, accountability and transparency?</p>
<p>Steven Earl Salmony<br />
AWAREness Campaign on The Human Population,<br />
established 2001<br />
<a href="http://sustainabilityscience.org/content.html?contentid=1176" rel="nofollow">http://sustainabilityscience.org/content.html?contentid=1176</a></p>
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		<title>By: Steven Earl Salmony</title>
		<link>http://climatedilemma.wordpress.com/2008/12/15/white-paper-released-kevin-rudd-announces-target/#comment-93</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steven Earl Salmony]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 21:35:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Does anyone have the feeling that our communication, here now and elsewhere in other moments, appears to be convoluted and confused because many too many of us do not yet recognize that the family of humanity literally lives within a modern version of an ancient edifice, the Tower of Babel?  The new leviathan-like, distinctly human construction is not made of stone, but instead built out as a &quot;house of cards&quot;.  This colossal, artificially designed structure is noticeably pyramidal in shape, organized as a patently unsustainable pyramid scheme, and named the global political economy.

For the people who are the primary beneficiaries of such a scheme, the global economy is effectively an object of idolatry. Nothing else really matters to them. These people are the self-proclaimed Masters of the Universe among us. They could not care less about the natural world, life as we know it for the children and future generations, the integrity of Earth. You can readily recognize the idolaters as the leading, self-righteous elders of my &quot;Not So GREAT GREED GRAB Generation&quot;. Endlessly consuming and hoarding resources as well as power-mongering are regarded as religious rituals. 

Any thoughts? 

Steven Earl Salmony
AWAREness Campaign on The Human Population,
established 2001 
http://sustainabilityscience.org/content.html?contentid=1176]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone have the feeling that our communication, here now and elsewhere in other moments, appears to be convoluted and confused because many too many of us do not yet recognize that the family of humanity literally lives within a modern version of an ancient edifice, the Tower of Babel?  The new leviathan-like, distinctly human construction is not made of stone, but instead built out as a &#8220;house of cards&#8221;.  This colossal, artificially designed structure is noticeably pyramidal in shape, organized as a patently unsustainable pyramid scheme, and named the global political economy.</p>
<p>For the people who are the primary beneficiaries of such a scheme, the global economy is effectively an object of idolatry. Nothing else really matters to them. These people are the self-proclaimed Masters of the Universe among us. They could not care less about the natural world, life as we know it for the children and future generations, the integrity of Earth. You can readily recognize the idolaters as the leading, self-righteous elders of my &#8220;Not So GREAT GREED GRAB Generation&#8221;. Endlessly consuming and hoarding resources as well as power-mongering are regarded as religious rituals. </p>
<p>Any thoughts? </p>
<p>Steven Earl Salmony<br />
AWAREness Campaign on The Human Population,<br />
established 2001<br />
<a href="http://sustainabilityscience.org/content.html?contentid=1176" rel="nofollow">http://sustainabilityscience.org/content.html?contentid=1176</a></p>
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		<title>By: Steven Earl Salmony</title>
		<link>http://climatedilemma.wordpress.com/2008/12/15/white-paper-released-kevin-rudd-announces-target/#comment-90</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steven Earl Salmony]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 20:30:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Perhaps hubris, corruption and greed have unexpectedly resulted in the colossal collapse of the global economy.

In a world in which too many politicians are posers; too many economists are deluded; too many business powerbrokers with great wealth are con artists, gamblers and cheats; and many too many absurdly enriched minions/’talking heads’ in the mainstream media parrot whatsoever serves political convenience and economic expediency, Jim Hansen&#039;s truth about global climate change is buried amid cascading disinformational and anti-informational garbage derived from a `tool box’ of pernicious rhetorical devices.

Do you think we have reached a point when we can say, however tentatively, that the global manmade economic colossus {a veritable and proverbial, modern Tower of Babel in all its glory} could crash before the overproduction, over-consumption and overpopulation activities of the human species worldwide collapse the frangible biological systems and finite physical resources of the planetary home God has blessed us to inhabit and not to ravage, I suppose?

Steven Earl Salmony

AWAREness Campaign on the Human Population,

established 2001

http://sustainabilityscience.org/content.html?contentid=1176]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps hubris, corruption and greed have unexpectedly resulted in the colossal collapse of the global economy.</p>
<p>In a world in which too many politicians are posers; too many economists are deluded; too many business powerbrokers with great wealth are con artists, gamblers and cheats; and many too many absurdly enriched minions/’talking heads’ in the mainstream media parrot whatsoever serves political convenience and economic expediency, Jim Hansen&#8217;s truth about global climate change is buried amid cascading disinformational and anti-informational garbage derived from a `tool box’ of pernicious rhetorical devices.</p>
<p>Do you think we have reached a point when we can say, however tentatively, that the global manmade economic colossus {a veritable and proverbial, modern Tower of Babel in all its glory} could crash before the overproduction, over-consumption and overpopulation activities of the human species worldwide collapse the frangible biological systems and finite physical resources of the planetary home God has blessed us to inhabit and not to ravage, I suppose?</p>
<p>Steven Earl Salmony</p>
<p>AWAREness Campaign on the Human Population,</p>
<p>established 2001</p>
<p><a href="http://sustainabilityscience.org/content.html?contentid=1176" rel="nofollow">http://sustainabilityscience.org/content.html?contentid=1176</a></p>
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		<title>By: Richard Tol</title>
		<link>http://climatedilemma.wordpress.com/2008/12/15/white-paper-released-kevin-rudd-announces-target/#comment-89</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Tol]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 15:38:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The price cap is in fact higher than my estimates, at least for a reasonable discount rate.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The price cap is in fact higher than my estimates, at least for a reasonable discount rate.</p>
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		<title>By: naught101</title>
		<link>http://climatedilemma.wordpress.com/2008/12/15/white-paper-released-kevin-rudd-announces-target/#comment-80</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[naught101]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 06:52:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, that&#039;s due to the &quot;Australia clause&quot; in the Kyoto Agreement, which uses 1990 as a baseline for LULUCF, and fails to mention that Australia&#039;s deforestation in 1990 was MASSIVE. 

http://www.sciencealert.com.au/opinions/20071303-14133.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, that&#8217;s due to the &#8220;Australia clause&#8221; in the Kyoto Agreement, which uses 1990 as a baseline for LULUCF, and fails to mention that Australia&#8217;s deforestation in 1990 was MASSIVE. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.sciencealert.com.au/opinions/20071303-14133.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.sciencealert.com.au/opinions/20071303-14133.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Peter Wood</title>
		<link>http://climatedilemma.wordpress.com/2008/12/15/white-paper-released-kevin-rudd-announces-target/#comment-76</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter Wood]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 09:14:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[naught101, your figures make sense for emissions excluding land use, land use change and forestry (LULUCF). I believe that the trajectory mentioned in the White Paper includes LULUCF. When you include LULUCF, total 2000 emissions for Australia are very similar to total 1990 emissions. But whether LULUCF figures can be trusted for Australia is another matter -- I treat them with extreme caution.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>naught101, your figures make sense for emissions excluding land use, land use change and forestry (LULUCF). I believe that the trajectory mentioned in the White Paper includes LULUCF. When you include LULUCF, total 2000 emissions for Australia are very similar to total 1990 emissions. But whether LULUCF figures can be trusted for Australia is another matter &#8212; I treat them with extreme caution.</p>
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		<title>By: naught101</title>
		<link>http://climatedilemma.wordpress.com/2008/12/15/white-paper-released-kevin-rudd-announces-target/#comment-75</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[naught101]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 08:16:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[5% decrease from 2000 = 13% increase from 1990. 

http://eco101.wordpress.com/2008/12/15/rudd-targets-13p-increase/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>5% decrease from 2000 = 13% increase from 1990. </p>
<p><a href="http://eco101.wordpress.com/2008/12/15/rudd-targets-13p-increase/" rel="nofollow">http://eco101.wordpress.com/2008/12/15/rudd-targets-13p-increase/</a></p>
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